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well, it's under cutting their own ideas. take for instance, raising the debt ceiling. something that everyone agrees need to be done. well, good news. by a vote of 285-144 today the house passed a bill raising the debt ceiling until may. but due to a provision that would withhold congressional pay if a budget isn't approved this year. 111 democrats voted against raiding the debt ceiling calling that provision a gimmick. however, it goes well beyond the house. today senator dick durbin revealed the democrats don't have the 51 votes necessary to reinstitute the talking filibuster even through the so-called nuclear option, even though everyone seems to want it. the last hope in filibuster reform is harry reid's great compromise of needing 41 votes to maintain a filibuster but i'm confident that the democrats will find some way to back down from that, too. joining me now the only one and only michael tomasky. starting with the debt ceiling. 111 democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling. was this all about the no budget no pay provision are the democrats trying to stick it to
to justify that is really deeply strange. for decades, raising the debt ceiling was something that congress has been willing to do. since the presidency of fdr, congress has to do. since fdr, congress voted to raise it literally dozens of times. the way we run the country, for generations, you may not like it. it is how we use the debt ceiling, we have raised it 89 times just between 1939 and 2010. the only time we haven't had to raise it in recent years was at the very end of the clinton administration when we started to run a budget surplus, remember that? but other than that, it happens as a matter of course. it is routine, but in 2010, the republicans decided they wouldn't do it anymore. and in the standoff, where they said they wouldn't do it again, even though it was done with presidents before them, they were not going to do it. the country could default on its debts, that was an economic disaster. check it out. this is job growth, month to month in the year 2011. during that time when it is weirdly suppressed, oh, yeah, it is the fight over the debt ceiling. so when you hear others
president obama before they raise the debt ceiling. the g.o.p. is calling to balance the federal budget in just ten years. that's almost twice as fast as previous efforts by republicans. if that is the case, medicare and other safety net programs wills take a huge hit. yesterday's extension of the debt ceiling now goes to the senate which will likely pass it as well. we'll be right back. (vo) current's award winning original series is back with an all new episode straight from the headlines. (vo) in the minefield of the nation's gun control debate, this could be the most polarizing issue. >> anybody can claim stand your ground and they could get away with murder. >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: yes indeed. equality moves to the front lines as the pentagon today lifts the ban on women in combat. big move. a great move. hello, everybody. happy, happy thursday and welcome, welcome to the "full court press." coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours. god bless america. we're booming out to
to the debt ceiling issue. remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses? >> i think they do. gwen, i think you have to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. yes, the republicans folded on this wise wisely. finally, i think they got some smart on this. you have to pick your fights. they need a breather now. they've been on the defense for a year on tax cuts for millionaires, on toughness, shutting down the government, they're not going to compromise. they need to recalbright here, a reset button needs to be pushed and it seems like in every aspect of government. and fight on future spending, not on obligations already incur. >> ifill: i
the senate passes a budget. and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and their reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. and if we take the prudent course, you know what? we'll be in really good company. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder, the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention, he lost some key arguments. you know, he fought the plan to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he thought it was deeply unjust. and at first he wants -- he wanted congress to be able to veto state laws n. bot
as obama was elected are going to cross their arms and they are not going to raise the debt ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. and you are going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> if you are right on those crazy, crazy things, then the rest of us are in for a dreadful, dread full time? >> dreadful. it is going to be so strange for the richest country on earth to cross their arms and say i'm not paying. imagine crossing your arms. you are going to see it this year. >> reporter: now, we have been asking our guests here for the riskometer. on this side we have is the u.s. a bigger threat to global growth in 2013. on this side the e.u. lutnic thinks the u.s. is by far the bigger. as you look overall most people still seem to believe europe is the biggest threat in 2013. by the way, speet tweet me wher think the biggest threat is. >> very official looking. did you make that yourself? >> don't you mock it? it works and it is doing a good job. >> we will have people tweet you and see what
into this situation are now quibbling about raising the debt ceiling when they almost broke the country with the proposals that they offered all those years and never once did they ask president bush. not once did they deny president bush on those proposals. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from michigan. mr. camp: i yield one minute to a distinguished member of the ways and means committee, the gentleman from illinois, mr. ross come. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. ross come: thank you, mr. speaker -- mr. rosk up: thank you, mr. speaker -- mr. roskum: thank you, mr. speaker. it is common sense to require people if they're getting compensation to do their job. it's been four years. it's been since rod blagojevich, the govnor of illinois, was indicted since the united states budget -- the united states senate has passed a budget. and now we have an opportunity to put pressure on the other body and that is to do their work. we don't do ourselves, we don't do our children, we don't do the taayers any favor by
to be -- to compromise to the slightest extent and all they did was kick the debt ceiling down the road three months. >> stephanie: yeah, and boehner called his own bluff he said never going to raise it without equal pay cut, and basically he went back on that, and as you said, all he did was kick it down the road for three months. what was the point for him? >> the point was to look like they had some kind of a win because they knew they were in trouble on the debt ceiling, and then put the pressure on somebody else, namely the senate. but they are going to put forth a budget pretty soon that is really going to be an important % contrast for the american people to see. they are going to try to balance the budget in ten years, which you cannot do without slashing medicare and medicaid, and social security. so the american people will get, i think, a very good look at the way republicans want to balance the budget and do deficit reduction and the way democrats do. we actually went through this with paul ryan's budget which was so egregious the leader of his party had to back awa
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